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Stafford Masie: Why the Rest of the World Gets Bitcoin Wrong

By Natalie Brunell

Aired Mar 3, 2026 · 32m · Last boosted Mar 15, 2026

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Is Bitcoin just "number go up?" Or is it something far bigger? Natalie Brunell sits down with Africa Bitcoin Corporation Executive Chairman Stafford Masie explore why Bitcoin adoption in Africa looks radically different than in the West. While many investors focus on price volatility, Africans are using Bitcoin as money ... as a lifeline against debasement, capital controls, and broken banking systems. We discuss: Why Bitcoin is money in Africa, not just "store of value" 1 Bitcoin = 5 African jobs Stablecoins vs Bitcoin adoption Lowering capital costs with Bitcoin The human yield flywheel Follow Stafford Masie on X...

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dizzyspellsMar 15, 2026
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You deserve more V for your V, but I'm facing some personal liquidity challenges at the moment. Where I work, they stopped hiring SW graduates a few years ago. I don't think they planned to switch to AI, it was just a desperate measure. Now they're pivoting hard to agentic coding.
william_the_frenchMar 12, 2026
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Love your reports, thanks for the work you do to keep me informed. And, I disagree with your take in UBI. Bitcoin and UBI will work very well together. Andrew Yang doesn’t want to tax the robots to pay people to stay home. The stay home narrative is 100% incorrect about UBI and you’re being spun by the same corporate, billionaire systems that are fighting Bitcoin. We have a common enemy. Think of UBI as a floor, not a safety net, or an income replacement. No one is sitting at home smoking weed and playing video games on 2K a month. They might very well save up for a while and leave their shitty job and start a small business, get trained for something else, or stay home with their young children; again nobody is leaving the workforce completely for 2K a month. I’d love to talk to you more about this or put you in touch with people I follow more able to speak to it. UBI and Bitcoin are both huge low time preference reinforcing mechanisms. They are complimentary, not competitive. So many bitcoiners will say you need to spend 100 hours learning about bitcoin, I would argue UBI needs a similar commitment, and if you haven’t committed to that level of study you’re in danger of sounding like a no coiner rhyming off classic fud about bitcoin like it’s money for criminals, and it’s not attached to anything, and it’s a Ponzi scheme. Be well sir, keep up the fantastic reporting on Bitcoin, and if you can make the time let’s explore the power of a UBI for individuals. It kind of makes individuals as powerful as a union can without the complexity of another large institution. Imagine what you would do if you were in a shitty job and then you started getting 2K a month consistently, for the foreseeable future, not clawed back if you continued working, or making income in any way. What would you tell your employer to do with that job :-). Cheers
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Jul 31, 2026
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dizzyspellsAug 1, 2026
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Thank you for taking the time to warn us all about the exploit. Yet again you are keeping my finger on the pulse of the events & news that really matter. Thank you & bless you for this service. May your roads be clear and scenic! BTW the boost value is not a code, just the max palindromic value I could send you.
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william_the_frenchApr 14, 2026
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Some sats in thanks for your energy.
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Apr 8, 2026
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Hello, fanboying here a bit, also think you were the first podcast we to read one of my comments into the consciousness of…anyone. :) as to your 100th episode question. Have you ever thought of an audience shift? I listened to Lyn Alden on Peter Mackormack’s show this week and her message was beautifully adjusted to his new audience. If you wanted to get your message out to another group, like Peter has, who would be your target audience?
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I missed it, this his Longy, right? What musicianship!!!
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william_the_frenchMay 21, 2026
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Value4Value is the future. Respect your commitment!
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dizzyspellsJun 27, 2025
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Just been paid, so now I can send you some value, in return for yours. Appreciate all the work you put in and the consistency (despite families & political dramas etc.)
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dizzyspellsMar 15, 2026
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Awesome interview(s), thanks for the work.
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dizzyspellsMar 15, 2026
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first you educated me in the self sovereign, KYC-free BTC way, then you introduced me more broadly to freedom tech, now you are guiding & encouraging me to adapt to AI. This is not enough value to express my thanks, one day there will be more
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dizzyspellsMar 15, 2026
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Wishing i could zap atoms of physical gold to this precious metals podcast. Why hasn't Marty's minion sorted this out yet? Thanks for the high signal, higher commitment & your almost fanatical dedication to effective hydration. You, Sirs, are 'salt of the earth'.
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dizzyspellsJun 27, 2025
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Appreciating your time, summarising the important information, news & events, saving my time. Pay day, so here's some value for your value. I hope you & your family have a great holiday.
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dizzyspellsNov 8, 2025
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Thanks for the high signal, here's a small amount of value in return. I'm a few shows out but PLEASE stay audio focussed. Visuals (e.g. notes on your nostr account) as an add-on would be a bonus but I'm finding I have to stop, dry/clean my hands multiple times per show where they've leaned more heavily into video. It's frustrating, when I've hit a rhythm in some tedious chore, and am successfully transported to realms of self-sovereign contemplation / education, to have to stop what I'm doing and drop back into reality to work out what on earth they're talking about! It makes the task seem longer and I enjoy the show a bit less. Anyway that's my view. Thanks for all the work you put in.
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dizzyspellsOct 4, 2025
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Just a small V4V thank you (wish it could be more) for summarising/ spotlighting the important information & events for us. I wouldn't have the time to stay even vaguely in touch without this show.
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dizzyspellsOct 4, 2025
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Haven't had time to listen yet, but boosting (pay cheque arrived) in return for all the value of your shows. Really impressed by the quality of these, and your work rate. Thank you.
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Frank.SatsJul 23, 2026
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Top! Wichtige Diskussion von R&R. Als Entwickler muss ich Roman Recht geben, wir verlieren uns oft in Technik, die sich ökonomisch nicht durchsetzt. Insgesamt sind wir zeitlich gesehen viel zu ungeduldig.
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Frank.SatsMar 10, 2026
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Sehr starke Folge. Hat mich ehrlich gesagt ziemlich aufgerüttelt und meine eigenen Überzeugungen hinterfragt. Viel Stoff zum Nachdenken – das lasse ich jetzt erstmal sacken
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I would argue that the rat race and our educational system are two other factors impeding sovereignty.
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2 points: Humans fail not gold -Peter Schiff (Exactly-therefore a trustless system takes humans out of the equation for the win and its Bitcoin) And « If I owned all the bitcoin it would be worth nothing; if I owned all the gold I’d be rich » again Peter…would you? If one person owned all the gold I don’t know that I’d want any, anymore, am I missing something here?
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william_the_frenchJan 21, 2026
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This reminds me of the first book I read on blockchains « The Truth Machine ». Always building your reputation, still as anonymous as you choose, and your reputation still has value. Way down the line, but could you imagine a « sorry » button? And a « forgiven » button? Seems people either say nothing for fear of becoming a meme, or hide behind burner accounts, and have no guard rails. Wouldn’t it be nice to feel you could fuck up and make amends?
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william_the_frenchJan 13, 2026
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This is the second or third podcast I’ve heard Saif share this theory and the more I struggle with it the more it is influencing my thinking. This was a sad hard fork. How do we avoid them in the future?
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Great episode! Up here in Kitchener, Ontario, Canada we have an active farmers market culture with a strong cash is king culture. I’m wondering if anyone listening here is from my area and would like to help to orange pill these folks? Also the idea of insisting on denominating in Sats; I lived in Mexico for two months once and by the end of that short time I had started to think in Pesos. It doesn’t take long. Cheers
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Born in 1972, when I was kid living in Northern Ontario our local am station ran a « virtual » garage sale over the am radio waves every Sunday morning. It was awesome!
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I want a sleep mix from this band. That was like a massage for my fried brain
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« Bitcoin is multi-level marketing for bros. » some creator on socials my wife follows.
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dizzyspellsNov 8, 2025
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You sir, are on fire at the moment. Show after high content show. Here's a little value, you deserve more. I'm now exploring bull wallet thanks to your interview. 🫡
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Consistently providing a summary of events in & around the freedom tech space, saving their audience's most scarce asset. Thank you, your value & service is appreciated.
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I enjoyed the bonus episode, informative & clearly presented as ever. Here's a small V4V note of thanks (wish I could afford to send more) & appreciation for your hard work.
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Appreciating the signal, and your consistency. Thanks for summarising what's going on around us & giving us your take on what is, and is not, important.
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william_the_frenchApr 13, 2026
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Deepest condolences
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I don’t hesitate to boost, it’s telling me right meow that my 500 sats are 0.35$ CAN, where in September it was somewhere like 0.47$ CAN…or 500’sats is 500 sats. :)
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william_the_frenchMar 20, 2026
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Always boost Longly :-) didn’t even wait for the first bar
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As an educator AI is a tool to first draft output like report card comments, email responses, lessons plans, and unit planning. Essentially it has increased my productivity, reducing my hours, allowing me to spend more time on human interactions with my students and colleagues. Same result as when I started using online testing tools and translation software (second language teacher) as they became more effective over the last 2 decades.
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As a teacher AI is a tool to draft my lesson plans, report card comments, and emails. I have ideas around using it for assessment that I have not tested yet. So my hours of work have been reduced, the quality of my Productions has increased, and my pay has remained unchanged.
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dizzyspellsNov 8, 2025
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I LOVED this interview. It's so inspiring to hear about freedom tech projects advancing in the shadows. I had the pleasure/opportunity to test fedimint at a workshop at Bitcoin Atlantis. The Fedi team impressed me there & this interview revealed how hard they've been working. I'm feeling really bullish about community custody (& I don't service my car beyond screen wash, wiper blades & an occasional oil change!), particularly in the under-banked / unbanked communities.
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  • 3,500 via Fountain
    High production quality, high value, as always. This was a perfect reminder of the real value of BTC & the seductive distractions of 'first world' problems/propaganda.
  • 500 via Fountain
    Stafford thank you for the reminder of the beauty of Bitcoin. There’s a reference to « Les ABCs » in Victor Hugo’s « Les misérables ». They were the poor revolutionaries who were illiterate (didn’t know their ABCs) and were marginalized « abaisser » in French, pronounced ABC.
  • 210 via Fountain
    Thx for this great interview. It was never about price. It’s about control. Or rather — taking it back. Immutable. Unstoppable. Decentralized.