#013 - Winston Marshall - Free Speech, Censorship, Cancel Culture and UK Politics

Finally just as I was losing my faith in bitcoiners along comes a bitcoiner who is brave enough to speak what everyone sees. Yes the Zionist mafia is committing genocide against the Palestinians and history will remember it as such. Thank you for having the great big hairy balls!!! The unapologetic bloody mindedness to speak the truth to power. Always. Robert Breedlove I salute you.

You had me at “Satoshi’s going to rape our nodes”.

Great show Teddy and Daryl. I got my knots badge but got my beard stuck in the knot. It was 45 mins of pain but the teacher was very impressed cos he thought it was the strongest knot he’d ever seen. Had to cut my beard in the end. No loger feeling the Gandalf vibe but proud of my knot. Tell me a bit more about your train sets.

Big fan of yours.

Ok someone needs to tell me if this is planned theft or If the govt is really trying to minimise the risk of contamination of the big banks in event of extreme financial collapse. From discussing withDeepSeek it seems a lot of this came out of the collapse of bear sterns where toxic assets could not be separated from bank assets. Really need your ‘Guys Take’. This is really an important one.

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Ok. I’ve listened to you guys sober and today I listened to you guys drunk. U make so much more sense drunk. I’ve discovered a life hack!!!

Enjoying the show.

Your point about bear markets sorting the wheat from the chaff is spot on. It links to Talib’s “antifragile”. At first I thought this was how bitcoin becomes antifragile but then I realised Bitcoin is just a protocol and it carries on regardless. What bear markets are really doing is making bitcoiners stronger. Making the bitcoiners who survive the bear market antifragile. Anyway. Loved the show.

Dr Jacks and Breedlove keep talking about the absolute importance of the protection of “private property” but completely ignore the literal theft of people’s homes in Palestine. Every home in Israel was stolen from a Palestinian family 🤷‍♂️. You can’t pretend to defend private property while ignoring the evil that is happening in Palestine. It comes off false.

Dr Jack: AI is the most dangerous thing in humanity because it has the ability to whitewash history Breedlove: but Bitcoin is immutable. The history of the 21million cannot be changed. This struck me hard. Is it possible to code books humanity will need to rebuilt civilisation or simply can we code books or ideas which we think are important into the blockchain. Is it feasible? Will it mess up Bitcoin? Is it expensive? Great listen.

I love Tom Luongo. Man speaks sense about the infinite war machine. It’s so depressing right now but Israels genocide in Gaza has opened people’s eyes. The world is starting to connect the dots between infinite money printer and infinite war machine.

🤣🤣”Al Qeuda democracy”. Love it. Keep up the sarcasm.

Great show. It really resonated with me when you said the rich finance Bros are getting bitcoin while poor people who’ll benefit the most are just not getting it. It so sad but like you said bitcoin is for enemies.

Oh boy. You really tried Natalie but he really doesn’t understand bitcoin. And bitcoin is not intuitive. You really have to understand the protocol before you can be confident. He is however right about us not understanding how bad things can get. We are a bit complacent about how violent the state can become (Israel as an example).

Inspired by Darkside, I asked DeepSeek “Can you predict the outcomes from the global financial crisis in 2008, if bitcoin existed as it presently exist with the ETFs and treasury companies”. Answer is fascinating. Of course. This is a fascinating "what if" scenario that blends history, economics, and technology. Predicting outcomes requires considering how a decentralized, non-sovereign, and globally accessible asset like Bitcoin would have interacted with the specific causes and effects of the 2008 crisis. First, let's clarify the key elements of your question: * **The 2008 Crisis Core Problem:** A collapse of trust in counter-party risk within the traditional financial system. Institutions like Lehman Brothers, AIG, and Bear Stearns were found to be insolvent due to exposure to toxic mortgage-backed securities. Banks stopped lending to each other, freezing credit markets. * **Bitcoin "as it presently exists":** This implies: * A mature asset class with significant liquidity (~$1T+ market cap). * Spot Bitcoin ETFs (e.g., BlackRock's IBIT, Fidelity's FBTC) providing easy, regulated access for traditional investors. * Publicly traded companies (e.g., MicroStrategy) and national governments (e.g., El Salvador) holding Bitcoin on their treasury balance sheets. Here’s a predicted breakdown of the outcomes, categorized into likely positive and negative consequences. --- ### Likely Positive Outcomes & Mitigating Effects 1. **A Massive "Flight to Safety" and Store of Value:** * **Scenario:** As trust in banks and traditional assets (stocks, bonds, even some currencies) evaporated, investors would have desperately sought alternatives. Gold famously surged during this period. Bitcoin, with its defined monetary policy (hard cap of 21 million) and independence from any government or bank, would have been a prime candidate. * **Outcome:** We would have seen an enormous capital inflow into Bitcoin, far exceeding the 2017 or 2021 bull runs. Its price would have skyr…

I couldn’t go past the part where he said everyone was against Israel as if that’s a surprise. Israel with US bombs are committing a genocide they are bombing schools and have killed more kids than all wars in the 21st century put together. I’m sorry but they are being monsters and pretending they’re not because they’re an ally is simply wrong. This is the definition of the violence of the state that bitcoiners talk about. Private property is stolen by the state and we are seeing it in real time. This is the ultimate expression of the perversity of the state backed by fiat and bitcoiners are ignoring it because it’s uncomfortable.

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Great show. I’ve been worried about it but instinctively something didn’t seem right and you’ve explained my concerns really well. 🤣even though I didn’t even know they were my concerns.

Max has always stood on the side of humanity.

Great read but chilling.

Great to have a contrary voice

Hi. Great talk. I heard Uncle Rockstar mention a person or site where you can send Bitcoin to help Palestine. Can you please include the address? I’ve been looking for this for a long time.

Great show. You’re right she is a really reasoned well thought out voice for Bitcoin. A bit like Lyn Alden. We need more like her.

Still listening but had to say I’m really enjoying this episode.

Am listening now and really enjoying it. Great to hear from the OGs.