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Quantum Computers Don't Exist w/ Brandon Black

By Brian HIrschfield and Rob Hamilton

Aired Jul 19, 2026 · 1h 23m · Last boosted Aug 14, 2026

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In this episode, Rob and I sit down with Brandon Black (aka Rearden Code) for a deep dive into the quantum-computing debate around Bitcoin. We unpack why Brandon thinks the more useful framing is not “post-quantum” but “post-secp256k1,” and why Bitcoiners should care less about sci-fi narratives and more about understanding the actual cryptographic assumptions that protect coins today. Along the way, we revisit the now-legendary conference panel on quantum risk, talk through exposed pubkeys, xpub leakage, multisig, Taproot, Lightning force closes, and the difference between a theoretical break and an economically viable attack. We also spend a...

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    Quantum computers don't exist
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