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Is MSTR a Ponzi? | Lyn Alden & Andy Constan

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Aired Aug 11, 2025 · 1h 45m · Last boosted Aug 15, 2025

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Lyn Alden and Andy Constan go deep on Bitcoin treasury companies like Strategy, debating whether they’re outright Ponzi schemes or legitimate vehicles for leveraged Bitcoin exposure. We dig into how these companies actually generate returns, why premiums to NAV exist, and the conditions that could cause the model to unravel. Lyn lays out her cautiously bullish case for well-run treasuries, while Andy argues the structure depends on new capital in ways that can’t last forever. In this episode: - What makes a Bitcoin treasury company different from an ETF - Wh...

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  • 210 via Fountain
    Great show, great comments!
  • 1,000 via Fountain
    Lyn is a master class 💕
  • 521 via Fountain
    Excellent debate. Insightful and respectful exchange of arguments and ideas. Debate as debate should be.
  • 500 via Fountain
    I really enjoyed this kind of discussion. Being in disagreement whilst remaining polite. Both sides did well on that. For the listener a good show because there was more controversy to chose from. Thank you!
  • 750 via Fountain
    Loved hearing Lyn talking about some of the risks with MSTR and what she thinks about the mnav. Toward the end I felt like she had to explain basic economics to this guy when talking about stablecoins. He was basically saying if I go to the grocery store and buy eggs there's no new demand for eggs because the grocery store already owned them
  • 100 via Fountain
    Tradfi just can't get over the "it's got no cashflow" and therefore continue to miss the "it's going up for ever, Laura"
  • 525 via Fountain
    “I like Bitcoin but I don’t own any”, said no one who actually knows anything about bitcoin, ever!!!! The ability to accept that traditional valuable tools may need to be revised is lacking. The ponzi argument of paying yield with issuing stocks is worthy, but at the scale mstr do it, I think minimal and make sense for bringing in more funding.