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Has the Debt Spiral Started? | Luke Gromen

By Danny Knowles

Aired Oct 15, 2025 · 1h 20m · Last boosted Oct 20, 2025

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Luke Gromen is the founder of Forest for the Trees. In this episode, we discuss why the U.S. debt cycle is reaching a breaking point, how AI and geopolitics are accelerating structural change, and why we could be witnessing the endgame of the fiat era. We get into why stablecoins may represent the next phase of the petrodollar system, the rise of financial repression, the return of inflation as a political tool, and why gold and Bitcoin are the only real safe havens this decade. He also lays out how AI threatens the debt-based...

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    While I think the AI/UBI conversation is needed, I do think it’s a bit overhyped. I’m constantly impressed at the capabilities and also the deficiencies of these tools. I also remember Andrew Yang campaigning ~2019 that UBI was needed because all truckers were going to be imminently replaced by self-driving trucks. I’d say tick-tock vs phase transition, but not by a big margin. 🍻
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