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342. Hardware Wallets: Security or Liability

By Dr. Saifedean Ammous

Aired Sep 8, 2026 · 2h 25m · Last boosted 10d ago

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Saifedean hosts a debate between JW Weatherman and Giacomo Zucco on whether hardware wallets are a security liability. They discuss the Cold Card entropy backdoor, multi-vendor multisig, the code review process in Bitcoin Core, using generic laptops, and how to think about your threat model. Sponsors: Swan: Buy your bitcoin and get concierge service from https://bit.ly/3KeR1Li The Saif House: Get Saifedean's books and high quality bitcoin & economics books with bulk discounts on https://bit.ly/46zZ5fx Learn more: https://yeticold.com/ Follow Giacomo Z...

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I’m heartbroken too and have survivor guilt. I’ve been in this space for just under two years and by a stroke of luck, I chose a different hardware brand. It could have been me and as thankful as I am that it wasn’t, I almost wish it was. FUCK THEIVES!!! I’m still bullish as hell and am going to beef up my security. The pain in you and Marty’s demeanor was felt so powerfully, not just through the sense of hearing, but the 6th sense of empathy. Don’t beat yourselves up… y’all are amazing and inspirational. Love you and everything you’ve done for this revolution. We’re still gonna win 👊🧡
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    Thanks for putting together this important debate. Everyone send listen to this so they can decide if they have the best set up.
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