Praxeology, Property Rights & Bitcoin with Stephan Kinsella | Bitcoin Infinity Show #192

Awesome episode!

I quit drinking years ago, over a decade, and the thing that helped the most was to think of my desire to drink as this little person inside me, and me beating the shit out of him every time he tried to talk me into cheating. I can say from this experience that everything you said about appetite in this episode was spot on and high signal. I appreciate it.

"distributed authoritarianiam" Wow, what a 🚩by Greg Maxwell, who is perfectly fine with centralized authoritarianism by Core. Such a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue, and what it means to run your own node, is a serious problem considering who it's coming from. Turns out "the experts" aren't the experts we thought they were. The way core proponents twist the meaning of censorship and authoritarianism is alarming. Another great discussion. Thanks guys!

Great episode, thanks! Core's main argument (repeated ad nauseum) is filters don't work 100% of the time. It doesn't need to be perfect, it needs to be as good as possible. Maximum friction for spammers and anyone else who wants to use Bitcoin for non-monetary uses. Of course miners will do anything for money, that's exactly why an op_return limit and other policies are needed, but certain core devs have twisted this around to justify removing one of the few tools available to pleb node operators (the absurdly high v30 default is effectively the same as removal). The point Luke makes at 1:36:40 is particularly good. Core supporters focus on one side of the equation, the spam that gets mined, and ignore what isn't. The thing about deterrents is we can't know how many attacks aren't even attempted at all because a deterrent exists. In the firewall example, at least intrusion attempts can be detected, but the attacks that never happen can't be measured and so are easy to ignore and dismiss. This is one of many flaws in Core's arguments. Thanks again guys!

The best example of core going woke was the blackist change in 2020. It's a particularly good example because the PR author explicitly did it for woke reasons: to use a "more appropriate" word and "make everyone happy". Contrary to Murch's claim that core tries to keep conversations technical (around 1:39:00), this PR had no technical justification at all. This was a good conversation, but if anything it made me even more anti-core. A lot of nitpicky weak arguments from Murch, and dismissive hand waving of valid concerns. We know there is more than one core dev, we have read the core arguments and we are still unconvinced. For all Murch's appeals for understanding the core position (I did make it to the end) he seems to have made very little effort to understand the position against this change. I read the "experts" letter, did he read the rebuttals? https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19227

Great episode.

Great episode!

Another awesome episode. Thanks Guy!

Awesome discussion. Mechanic's summary at the start was more convincing than anything I've heard in favor of this retarded change. The beginning of the core woke infestation was the PR to remove the word "blacklist" from some test code because, somehow, this word is offensive. All the devs cried "it's no big deal" but I knew at the time it was a bad sign. Now core is a woke cesspool. I will not be running their software anymore.

Great conversation!

Excellent Guy's Take. 🔥🔥🔥

Wake up XMR shills LN works, been streaming privately thousands of sats to you, 10 sats at a time for each minutes of listening. And breaking you can't do that with Monero. XMR works sure as long as nobody continues to use it 🤣 Love you still despite your LN bad faith 🧡🧡🧡

Nice. No mention of @npub10hpcheepe… though to run frontier models e2ee ?

NoGood

Super intéressant. Par contre Vitalik est aussi Cypherpunk que je suis Satoshi / 3k GB c'est 3 TB c'est pas cher / Ethereum est à décentralisation ce que gauchiste est à l'honnêteté intellectuelle... #nostrfr

Brilliant talk. npub1klkk3vrzme455yh9rl2jshq7rc8dpegj3ndf82c3ks2sk40dxt7qulx3vt you should have pushed further on the inanity of IP 😉

Banger ! #nostrfr

Passionnant Guido Hulsmann et Ulrich, sur l'abondance et la générosité dans le contexte de l'Etat interventionniste.

Infiniment passionnant

Imagine a world where you can pay anyone on-chain or lightning with a single identifier (nostr or DNS based ?) thanks to Silent Payments and Bolt12...wild. You could even couple that to a Boltz like swap service to send from Lightning/on-chain then reaching the payee through an atomic swap seamlessly. Insane UX coupled with insane privacy. Fascinating episode.

Passionnant, bravo les gars

Super Episode nice @npub1t289s8ck5… et Ulrich

Still not anti State enough but really good episode congrats Jack. We need to start Atlas Shrugged shit asap in the cyberspace.

Phœnix wallet charges a 0,4% fee not 1%. And is incredibly easy to use for anyone with a bit of good faith. Much faster than Liquid / LN swaps. Only thing slightly better but not much better, is privacy on the swap wallets compare to Phoenix, at least as long a bolt12 in not generalized.

The level of delusion and bad faith of Seth is always funny to watch. Take that boost anyway for the overall great quality of the show

500 sats supplémentaires pour les dinosaures 🤣🤣🤣

Passionnant même si choqué d'apprendre qu'Ulrich est socialiste

Tired of the moonboys Trump' fanboys screaming everywhere and worshipping their new overlord Happy to see that some people are still thinking straight so small boost before even listening to the podcast :)

Well said. As someone who's more anti-core than pro-110, but also a 110 supporter, I agree with Guy's take on this. One thing worth mentioning is that some of the biggest names in Bitcoin development, like @npub1qg8j6gdwp… and sipa, are the worst offenders when it comes to misrepresenting 110 as censorship. It's particularly disappointing these heavy weights can be so wrong about this, and it's impossible not to read bad intentions when they keep pushing the same flawed logic. It definitely works on the midwits though, so not surprised they do it.

The term "sound money" has nothing to do with the noise gold coins make. It comes from the Old English "gesund" meaning strong or healthy. This is why we say "Gesundheit" when someone sneezes. And also why the word is frequently applied to things besides money like "sound reasoning". Robert (and Peter Schiff) uses the incorrect gold coin origin frequently, and it grinds my gears every time. See the adjective section in this link: https://www.etymonline.com/word/sound