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How the State Captures Bitcoin w/ American HODL

By Danny Knowles

Aired Jun 5, 2025 · 1h 11m · Last boosted Jul 4, 2025

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American HODL is an OG Bitcoiner. In this episode, we explore how the state may co-opt Bitcoin not by banning it, but by absorbing it into public markets, enabling control through financial instruments like ETFs and convertible bonds. We also get into the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, why Michael Saylor’s strategy is just the beginning, and the threat of an Executive Order 6102 style attack. We also discuss the moral tradeoffs of financialising Bitcoin and whether self-custody will be punished through regulation. As well as the Trojan horse theory of Bitcoin adoption, whether it's better to fi...

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Episode Boosts

Every boost sent to this episode, as published to Nostr, newest first.

  • 500 via Fountain
  • 121 via Fountain
    Great episode. Great topics. Thank you!
  • 100 via Fountain
    "one ruleset to rule them all" 🔥 "Bitcoin is giving us back things that we lost and bringing new things into existence" 🔥
  • 300 via Fountain
    Hodl! Being based….. Glory to God
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    Why doesn’t Hodl ever appear on pleb podcasts? I’m only listening to this because he makes me laugh but I feel like a clown listening to this podcast
  • 777 via Fountain
    Consistently amazed at @npub1rtlqca8r6… ‘s ability to use a phrase like “the tyranny of petty differences,” reference Futurama and dismiss the OP RETURN debate in the same sentence
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    American Hodl is legit and pure signal. ❤️✌️💪