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How Bitcoin Will Destroy the State | Erik Cason & Jesse Posner
By Danny Knowles
Aired Jun 30, 2025 · 1h 31m · Last boosted Jul 8, 2025
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Erik Cason is the author of Cryptosovereignty & co-founder of Vora. Jesse Posner is a an engineer, formally at Coinbase and BitKey & the co-founder of Vora. In this episode, we discuss why Erik and Jesse believe the modern state has already collapsed, why Bitcoin is the only shot at reclaiming sovereignty in the digital age and how philosophy, law, and cryptography intersect. We also get into the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies and how this growing financialization of Bitcoin could lead to a liquidity crisis and reflexive market crash. Finally, we talk about building tools for...
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@vora what will be the biggest difference between your product and something like startOS?